Comments on: The Myth of Post-Military Employment http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/ If you're not angry with me yet, just keep reading. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:39:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Bessed - The Human-Powered Search Engine http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-55103 Bessed - The Human-Powered Search Engine Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:26:45 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-55103 <strong>Post Military Employment...</strong> Seven of the best sites about employment after a military career. Know of another site that should be on this list? Leave your suggestion at the bottom of this page. (Related searches: U.S. Veterans) 1. TAOnline - Transition Assistance Online offers in... Post Military Employment…

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]]> By: Jay http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-54618 Jay Thu, 01 May 2008 20:27:40 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-54618 -To amplify the drop off of 'military experience' when translated to civilian world, things don't always scale as you hope for: It is common for 20 year olds in the military to 'be in charge of' several people and $$s worth of equipment. On the civilian side being in charge of even 3 to 5 people is a pretty big jump and takes many, many years to attain (generally speaking of course). When it comes to budgets and physical assets, the wait is even longer. -I echo the education factor: Earn a B.S. if at all possible before transitioning out. And in today's world, advanced degrees get noticed. -Need work? 1,000s of teaching positions are needed. Again, you'll need education but the job openings are there (maybe even be a cheerleading coach as well?!) Another very common military to civilian transition = law enforcement. -To amplify the drop off of ‘military experience’ when translated to civilian world, things don’t always scale as you hope for: It is common for 20 year olds in the military to ‘be in charge of’ several people and $$s worth of equipment.

On the civilian side being in charge of even 3 to 5 people is a pretty big jump and takes many, many years to attain (generally speaking of course).

When it comes to budgets and physical assets, the wait is even longer.

-I echo the education factor: Earn a B.S. if at all possible before transitioning out. And in today’s world, advanced degrees get noticed.

-Need work? 1,000s of teaching positions are needed. Again, you’ll need education but the job openings are there (maybe even be a cheerleading coach as well?!)

Another very common military to civilian transition = law enforcement.

]]> By: Jules http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-37816 Jules Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:05:03 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-37816 Thanks for the well written article. I am in my second term and researching on how to get out and satisfy my career and financial needs. I know its possible, I just have to take the leap. Thanks for the well written article. I am in my second term and researching on how to get out and satisfy my career and financial needs. I know its possible, I just have to take the leap.

]]> By: Jeff Barnett http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-23970 Jeff Barnett Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:48:00 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-23970 @John Doe Read the blog previous to this titled "The Myth of Military Pay." In it I use an ancient technique developed by the Chinese called "math." @John Doe

Read the blog previous to this titled “The Myth of Military Pay.” In it I use an ancient technique developed by the Chinese called “math.”

]]> By: John Doe http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-23968 John Doe Mon, 04 Jun 2007 18:42:33 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-23968 How on earth did you conclude that an E-4 with four years of service has an equivalent annual salary of $40k? Even spending a year in country overseas one would have trouble coming up with these sort of ridiculous numbers. Not that I disagree with you entirely, but this is just plain false. The monetary benefits are just not there in the military, nor the technical skills(particularly in the Marine Corps) applicable to the civilian market, nor a choice in where you work or if you will even be there in 6 months. How on earth did you conclude that an E-4 with four years of service has an equivalent annual salary of $40k? Even spending a year in country overseas one would have trouble coming up with these sort of ridiculous numbers. Not that I disagree with you entirely, but this is just plain false. The monetary benefits are just not there in the military, nor the technical skills(particularly in the Marine Corps) applicable to the civilian market, nor a choice in where you work or if you will even be there in 6 months.

]]> By: Doogie http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-23855 Doogie Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:13:27 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-23855 I think you missed the mark on Hadley’s comment. It seems to me that he used, “striking out” as in starting a journey not as in a subpar at-bat. I can't believe I misspelled "not". Doogie I think you missed the mark on Hadley’s comment. It seems to me that he used, “striking out” as in starting a journey not as in a subpar at-bat.

I can’t believe I misspelled “not”.

Doogie

]]> By: Doogie http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-23854 Doogie Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:11:30 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-23854 Midnight, I think you missed the mark on Hadley's comment. It seems to me that he used, "striking out" as in starting a journey nat as in a subpar at-bat. In any case, I think that part of your frustration in talking to other servicemembers about getting out is that they all seem offended by it if you are staying in the military. I have a few personal theories on this, but you seem far more eloquent so I'll let you comment on it. I like the blog. Good luck "outside"! Doogie Midnight,

I think you missed the mark on Hadley’s comment. It seems to me that he used, “striking out” as in starting a journey nat as in a subpar at-bat.

In any case, I think that part of your frustration in talking to other servicemembers about getting out is that they all seem offended by it if you are staying in the military. I have a few personal theories on this, but you seem far more eloquent so I’ll let you comment on it.

I like the blog.

Good luck “outside”!

Doogie

]]> By: Dimitri http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-22983 Dimitri Sat, 26 May 2007 22:36:09 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-22983 Midnight: Thx for the compliment. I have a lot of work to do on the site, but I see it as a military news community. I should put more time into the site, but I'm active duty, married w/ kids, and a full-time graduate student. So, the site often gets shorted. ...but I'll pay it some attention during class break. :) By the way, I subscribed to your RSS feed due to the quality of your writing. It is refreshing when I find a blog that is well researched and composed. Dimitri http://MILRUMINT.com/ Midnight:
Thx for the compliment. I have a lot of work to do on the site, but I see it as a military news community. I should put more time into the site, but I’m active duty, married w/ kids, and a full-time graduate student. So, the site often gets shorted. …but I’ll pay it some attention during class break. :)

By the way, I subscribed to your RSS feed due to the quality of your writing. It is refreshing when I find a blog that is well researched and composed.

Dimitri
http://MILRUMINT.com/

]]> By: Jeff Barnett http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-22844 Jeff Barnett Sat, 26 May 2007 14:49:37 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-22844 Great site, Dimitri. I like the style and content. Great site, Dimitri. I like the style and content.

]]> By: Dimitri http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/comment-page-1/#comment-22826 Dimitri Sat, 26 May 2007 12:31:48 +0000 http://midnight.hushedcasket.com/2007/04/27/the-myth-of-post-military-employment/#comment-22826 @Hadley: Interesting theory on the nature of entrepreneurialism. Of course, it ignores the fact that SMB owners with military backgrounds have a statistically higher success rate than non-veterans largely due to (1) increased federal assistance for veteran entrepreneurs and (2) presence of core skills generally believed to be a universal key to SMB success, such as work ethic and ability to lead a team (of employees). @article: Great story. I agree with the core concept, and appreciate that you included some of the key exceptions (e.g., linguists). Supply and demand rules the labor market just as much as the goods market, capital market, or any other market. Dimitri http://MILRUMINT.com/ @Hadley:
Interesting theory on the nature of entrepreneurialism. Of course, it ignores the fact that SMB owners with military backgrounds have a statistically higher success rate than non-veterans largely due to (1) increased federal assistance for veteran entrepreneurs and (2) presence of core skills generally believed to be a universal key to SMB success, such as work ethic and ability to lead a team (of employees).

@article:
Great story. I agree with the core concept, and appreciate that you included some of the key exceptions (e.g., linguists). Supply and demand rules the labor market just as much as the goods market, capital market, or any other market.

Dimitri
http://MILRUMINT.com/

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